January 07, 2012

Af-Pak Region Is Ancient Khorasan (Article By Orya Maqbool Jaan)

خراسان قدیمی، وہ علاقہ جسے بشارتوں کی سر زمین بننا ہے


Map of Ancient Khorasan


(Reference: Wikipedia)
Greater Khorasan or Ancient Khorasan (Persian: خراسان بزرگ or خراسان کهن) (also written Khurasan) is a historical region of Greater Iran mentioned in sources from Sassanid and Islamic eras which "frequently" had a denotation wider than current three provinces of Khorasan in Iran.[1] It also included parts of Afghanistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Tajikstan[1][2]
Khorasan in its proper sense comprised principally the cities of Balkh, Herat and Ghazni (now in Afghanistan), Nishapur and Tus (now in Iran), Merv (now in Turkmenistan), and Samarqand and Bukhara (now in Uzbekistan). However, the name has been used in the past to cover a larger region that encompassed most of Transoxiana and Soghdiana[3] in the north, extended westward to the Caspian Sea, southward to include the Sistan desert and eastward to the Hindu Kush mountains in Afghanistan.[4] Arab geographers even spoke of its extending to the boundaries of ancient India,[2] possibly as far as the Indus valley, in what is now Pakistan.[1] Sources from the 14th to the 16th century report that Kandahar, Ghazni and Kabulistan in Afghanistan formed the eastern part of Khorasan, overlapping with Hindustan.....(See More Details at Wikipedia)


Admin Note:
Its really strange as we mentioned in our last post that 'Testament of Khawajah Moin-ud-din Chishti Ajmeri RA' will be published soon. In background of that Testament, we thought to post Sultan Shahab-ud-Din Muhammad Ghauri's Conquest of Dehli and Spiritual Role of Khawajah Moin-ud-din Chishti Ajmeri RA.

 Here Orya Maqbool Jaan also mentioned 'Sultan Ghauri' and cultural roots of Muslims in Indo-Pak,  in his article. Both posts will complement each other now. (that's how things work spiritually whether someone understands or not)


Indo-Pak Nahin AfPak (Afghanistan Pakistan) Region by Oriya Maqbool Jaan
07 Jan,2012 (Express Newspaper)

72 comments:

  1. Nice post. Oriya Maqbool Jaan k article hmesha umeed barhatay hein. Inshallah aesa hi ho ga.

    ReplyDelete
  2. HAQ O BAATIL KE HISAAB SE YEH TAHJJUD KA TIME HAI JO ISME SAABIT QADAM RAHEGA ALLAH TALA KO BOHT YAAD KARNE WALA HOGA WOH BOHT BULAND O ALAA MAQAAM PAAYEGA .. YEH WOH TIME HAI JISKE BAAD FAJAR KI AZAAN HOTI HAI AUR JAMAAT QAAIM HOTI HAI PHIR SURAJ NIKALTA HAI AUR PURI DUNIYA KO ROSHAN KARDETA HAI, YEH WOH TIME HAI JISME JAMAAT ME JAAGNE WALA ALLAH KI IBADAT KARNE WALA BOHT KHUSHNASEEB HOTA HAI AUR YEH WOH TIME JISKI JAMAAT KA IMAM KOI AUR NAHI HAZRAT IMAM MEHDI A.S HONGE .. YEH WOH TIME HAI JISME LOGO KO JAGAANE WALA AUR IS JAMAAT ME SHAMIL KARWAANE WALA ALLAH KA MEHBOOB BAN JATA HAI. YEH WOH TIME HAI JAB SHAITAAN APNA PURA ZOR LAGATA HAI KE LOG SOTEY RAHE. YEH WOH TIME HAI JISME ASMAAN SE FARISHTEY NAAZIL HOTEY HAI... BAS INSHALLAH KIRAN PHOOTNE WAALI HAI AZAAN HONE WAALI HAI MOAZZAN KA BAS INTIZAAR HAI JO AAKAR AZAAN DEGA AUR LOGO KO IMAM KE PEECHEY JAMA KAREGA US SIPPA SALAAR KA INTIZAAR HAI JISKI AZAAN KE BAAD BAQAAIDA JAMAAT KA AGHAAZ HOGA .. INSHALLAH WOH MOAZZAN WOH AZAAN DENE WALA WOH SIPPA SALAAR PAKITSAN SE HI USKA AGHAAZ KAREGA .. ALLAH TALA HAM SAB KO US JAMAAT ME US GHUZWA ME SHAAMIL HONE KI TOFIQ AUR SAABIT QADMI ATA FARMAAYE.. AMEEN..

    ReplyDelete
  3. asal khurasan pakistan nahi,iran aur ek central asian state ka ilaqa hai.precisely,iran ka.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Yes I am agree you talk Hussain, actually Khurasaan is Iran not to Af-Pak, if you try to search on google what is actual Khurasan place there will be mention it on Iran and there will be unhide Khurasani send his convoy to fight with sufiyani who are available in syria. Now you review what current situation going on Syria.

      Delete
  4. @ hussain:

    How many refernces do you want that Pakistan is part of Khurassan?? I can give you atleast 16 different refernces showing that pakistan is part of Khurrasan. Faqar Bhai ney aik sab se common refernce wikipedia sey dey diya hey, agar us pey yaqeen nai hey tou khud reearch kar lo.

    Wesey clasically jin jin Shia Hazrat se meri is mozoo pey baath huwi hey, wo yehi baath kartey hey jo aap keh rahey hey. Yani ke Iran is Khurasaan and no part of Pakistan is part of it.

    Therefore you are following Shia Point of View, and u are entitled to do that. But don't try to promulgate half knowledge.

    Again I ask you, Please tell me how many refernces do you need?

    ReplyDelete
  5. Asslaam Aleykum

    ye link dekhain, is main mukhtalif map aur details hain

    http://blackflags1.blogspot.com/p/details.html


    yahan aik bat qabl e zikr hey,

    k black flags kisi firqey ki makhsoos nishani to hosakta hey lekin aik baat bohat se log nahi jantey,

    k black flags aur black amaama shareef bohat si jangon main bhi use huwa hey ,
    aur jangon main black amaama shareef ka pehnna sunnat hey aur isi nisbat se black flags bhi sunnat hey.
    aur jo baat ahaadees main black flags k mutaliq i hey is se muraad kisi aik firqey ki taraf ishara nahi kiya gya,
    bal k black flags ka istemaal jangon main krna sunnat bhi hey .

    aur yaqeenan wo log jin k barey main ahaadees main aya hey k wo khorasaan se black flags ley kar niklengey aur baitul muqadass tak jaaingey aur un main ALLAH KA WALI HOGA
    YANI HAZRAT MAHDI A.S. YA HAZRAT MANSOOR R.A.

    aur yaqeenan wo logo gumrah firqey se hargiz hargiz nahi hongey
    kyun k ALLAH TAALA ZAALMON AUR GUMRAHON KA SAATH NAHI DETA, ALLAH TAALA AHL E HAQQ K SAATH HEY ,

    QURAN E MAJEED MAIN ALLAH TAALA MOMINON KO FARMATA HEY K

    " WA KOONOO MA ASSAADEQEEN "

    ALLAH TAALA MOMINON KO SACHON K SAATH SHAMIL HONEY KA FARMATA HEY AUR BEY SHAK WO BHI SHACHON K SAATH HI GOTA HEY .

    aur wo groh jo black flags ley kar niklengey wo bhi ahl e haqq hi hongey,

    bohat sey kam elm log sirf black flags se hi gumrah ho jatey hain yani wo ye samjhtey hain k ye sirf shia wagera qism k log hi hongey .

    esa hargiz nahi ,
    ALLAH TAALA HAMAIN DEEN KI SAMAJH ATAA FARMAAYE AUR HAR GUMRAHI SE BACHAAYE AMEEN SUMMA AMEEN .

    ReplyDelete
  6. SubhanAllah!

    Appearance of this article is a strange yet welcome coincidence. Aqalmand ko ishara kafi hota hai! Another part of "grooming to awakening".

    Dr. Israr Ahmed (RA) ki baseerat aur ilm ko phir daad dena paray gi. May Allah reward him with His rehma and Jannatul Firdous. Ameen sum Ameen.

    ReplyDelete
  7. Insha'Allah Armies of Khurasaan (Iran/Afghan/Pak) will help Imam Mahdi.

    ReplyDelete
  8. http://www.imranhosein.org/articles/islam-and-politics/184-iqbl-and-pakistans-moment-of-truth.html

    Can anyone comment on this.
    Thanks

    ReplyDelete
  9. @all:
    i dont consider that only shias will be the soldiers of Mahdi alaye hi salam ,nor do i consider black flags of shia are the only interpretation of black flags.
    the subject of hadith mentions "when black flags emrge from east,that is a glad tiding for the appearanace of Mahdi (alaye his salam)"
    these black flags may be of Mughals or of Banu Abbas as well.
    and soldiers of Mahdi alaye hi salam will be from every part of world inshaAllah .and Maulana Sheikh Nazim QaddasAllahu Sirrahul Aziz recently mentioned in a meeting with afghan murids that 70,000 soldiers of Mahdi alaye hi salam will be from afghanistan.
    i dont think that taliban will be 70,000 in number.!
    and anoher important pint is that a very significant proportion of aghan population is shia!

    ReplyDelete
  10. aur dr. israr woh admi hai jis ne Mola Ali alaye hi salam ki shan mein bad tareen gustakhi ki thi aur ghalat reference dae ker ahadith twist ker k pesh ki theen.bzahir uss ka ilm shuru bhi bughz e ahl e bayt alayehim salam ajmaeen se tha aur khatam bhi.aur woh toh maalakand k terrorists ko Mahdi alaye hi salam ka lashkar kehta tha

    ReplyDelete
  11. Kuch log shioun ko gumrah kehte hain.haalan k lafz shia nahi use kerna chahiye kyun k shian e Ali alaye hi salam mein Miqdad bin Aswad,Suleman Farsi,Abu Zarr Ghafarri b thay aur RasulAllah Salla'l la ho alaye he wasallam ne farmaya k Allah inn k dost rakhta hai (Tirmidhi).
    Baat yeh hai k ahl e tashayyu k kuch beliefs jese Quran se mutalliq,masoomiyat se mutalliq waghera toh ghalat qarar diye ja sakte hain lakin jahan masla khilafat ka aata hai wahan unn k paas b bht potential arguments hain aur sunni books k refernces b.
    Sahi Bukhari aur Muslim ki he bht si riwayat he aapis mein contrdict kerti hain ek dusray ko,jin se shia b dalail detay hain.aur sunni ulema bht dafa jawab gol mol ker jatay hain.
    ek cheez share kerta hun.bht se sunni ulema kehte hain k imamat pe iman lazim nahi lakin ghalibn tabrani ki hadith hai muaviya se k jo shakhs bgher kisi imam ki ma'rifat k marr gya,woh kufr ki haalat mein marra.
    iss riwayat ko sahi kaha gya hai.
    ab iss riwayat ki roshni mein toh shion ka beief bzahir theek naza aata hai k imamat pe iman lazmi hai.aur yeh b k Imam Mahdi alaye hi salam 254-260 hijri k darmyan kisi waqt paeda huey thay,jesa k Allama barzanji aur Maulana JAmi Rehmatullahi alayehim ka b man'na tha.
    yeh sab cheezein likhne ka maqsad yeh hai k,shioun ki kuch arguments mein
    potential hai,unhein directly rule over kerna possible nahi

    ReplyDelete
  12. mein kisi ko force toh nahi ker sakta k woh kis cheez pe believe keray aur kis pe nahi.zada se zda yehi keh sakta hun k jab time aye ga toh dekha jaye ga.

    aur iss khush fehmi mein na rehna k afghani ap k sath hain 1 lakh musalmanoun ki afghanistan hijrat ko yaad rakhna aur afghaniyoun ka response b,1947 mein general assembly mein afghanistan ne jo pakistan ki mukhalifat ki thi woh b,aur woh hadith b k Momin ek surakh se 2 baar nahi dassa jaata.

    ReplyDelete
  13. iss link mein afghanistan ka zikr hai,pakistan ka nahi.aur afghanistan ,iran aur central asia pe he zaur dia hai author ne.ek jaga albatta likhta hai k arab geographers ne Pakistan ko b shamil kia hai.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Khorasan

    ReplyDelete
  14. aur ek wajah khurasan k iran mein honay ki yeh bhi hai k dajjal ne chuun k isfehan se nikalna hai,yani iran se aur dajjal taghooti taaqat hai,toh phir kher ki taaqat b wahin se niklay gi.han yeh aur baat hai k Imam Mahdi alaye hi salam pehle zahir hon ge.

    dusra yeh k bagh hussain sahib ne apni kitab mein likha tha k unn ko hukam mila tha k iran pe khasusi twajjuh do.

    teesri baat yeh k khwaja jaan muhammad butt ne b kaha tha k "shah iran ki janib se ayen gae"


    chouthi baat yeh k jis ne man'na ho ga woh itne he delail se maan jaye ga.

    ReplyDelete
  15. @ Hussain

    Shia or Ravafiz what ever name them they are out of path of Islam , no need such above commments that they have some how authenticity of their belifes , regaring the Ulama accordinng to you that they " Gol mol jawab kartay hian" just coz of not sufficieant knowledge since with knowledge one must have baseerat to argue which our most ulama does not these days at all and depending on only bookish knowledge and not on their own efforts.

    "Kuch log shioun ko gumrah kehte hain.haalan k lafz shia nahi use kerna chahiye kyun k shian e Ali alaye hi salam mein Miqdad bin Aswad,Suleman Farsi,Abu Zarr Ghafarri b thay aur RasulAllah Salla'l la ho alaye he wasallam ne farmaya k Allah inn k dost rakhta hai (Tirmidhi)" so what about other Sahiba status ??? and specially those" WES SABAYQOON AWALEEN MINAL MUHAJREEN O ANSAR ? SURA TOBA AYA 100 and specially verses 115 of of SURA NISA about Sihabay karam status in eye of SHIA .

    regarding the imamat , when allah has declared in ALYOUMA AKMALTO DEENO KUM " so it means everything has completed, App aslato aslam ka US WAY HASNA and whole life is enough to study to adopt to complet and to reach Allah and after this where we need Immaat and what Immamat will do after this more ???? if i say that WHEN QURAN MESSAGE COMPLETED then DOORS OF WILAYAT started not IMMAMAT .

    The real thing is Quran and after that SUNAT and what is SUNAT in reality " ahkam orr amaal kay majmaoay ka namm " not the name of IMMAMAT
    who ever follow the sunnat and turn their lives according to sunnat they become the ZINDA TAFSEEER OF SUNNAT.

    regaridng the Imam mehdi what ever the status of this pesonality one thing is very clear it will be a WARDI WALA of Umatay Muhamdiya who has Quran As Imam and holding tightly rasiii of Allah. NN

    ReplyDelete
  16. Well,i'm not in fvaor of discussing such issues openly.If you want a debate,we may have it later in detail and i'll present you those narrations which give rise to suspicion.
    and the point is that you have to then admit that authenticity of ahadith determined by scholars of ahadith is'nt a standard.(since one sahi hadith emphasizes the importance of imamat).similarly one tradition of Bukhari says something,the other one negagtes it.
    Imam means leader.Is'nt it true that silsila e qariya proceeds to Imam Ali bin Musa Ar Raza alaye hi salam and many other salasil proceed upto Imam HAssan Askari alaye hi salam and is'nt it true that all salasil except naqshbandi proceed through Imam Ali alaye hi salam although some researchers say that NAqshbandi silsila also proceeds through Imam Ali alaye hi salam.
    The point is we sunnis criticze shia for calling imams as infalliable but more or less unconciously we ourselves assign the same status to all sahaba without speaking it from our mouth.
    This is unjust and unfair.

    ReplyDelete
  17. @NN:is there a hadith that Imam MAhdi alaye hi salam will be wrdi wala (Nauzbillah).Dont fabricate views.
    WArdi wala may come in Pakistan (but he'll not be Imam Mahdi alaye hi salam)

    ReplyDelete
  18. @ Hussain

    you need understanding " Wardi Wala : ITS NOT HADIS its the person who is follower of dress of Sunat and Quran not the one wardi wala which are belongs to Army or police or other .......

    anyhow regarding the Imamat i already made clear to you and it is according to Quran which is without any doubt and debate will go on such issue which are in doubt here things are clear and very clear without any ahadis or points , there are thousand of ahadis fabricated and become authentic for sects and no one did little efforts about their Ravis and truth.

    regarding the Silasil all silasils goes to Allah

    "MAQSAD AIK HA ZARIAYA KOI BHI HO SAKTA HA "

    Sahaba also followed the same path which is difine in Islam and under the fregnent roof of APP ASALATO ASLAM TEACHINGS. NN

    ReplyDelete
  19. The Messenger of Allah said:
    “If you see the Black Banners coming from Khurasan go to them immediately, even if you must crawl over ice, because indeed amongst them is the Caliph, Al Mahdi.” [Narrated on authority of Ibn Majah, Al-Hakim, Ahmad]

    Abu Abdullah Nuaim Ibn Hammad on a chain of transmission on the authority of Al Zuhari who said ” The black flags will come from the East, led by mighty men, with long hair and beards, their surnames are taken from the names of their home towns (i.e. Khosti or from Khost etc.) and their first names are from a “Kunya”
    (Asmal Masalik Lieyyam Mahdiyy Maliki Li Kull-id Dunya Biemrillah-il Malik, Qalda bin Zayd)

    Black flags from khurasan means flags of Al Qaeda and mujahideen Taliban.Insha'Allah inn mujahideen ka akhri parao Bait ul Muqaddus hoga.

    ye Eman ke azmaish ka waqt hai.aaj hum apni kamzor eman aur dajjal ke harkaron ke khof ke waja se haq ke sath shamil honay se ghabratay hai. kam as kam hum itna to kar saktay ke hum zuban aur dil se haqq ka saath dain.
    Almi dajjali kufar america aur us ke ittehadi aaj Afghan Taliban se sulah aur safe exit ke bheek mang rahe hai.
    Hum Pakistanyon ne kufar ke ittehad main 10 sall zaiy kar daiy.Khuda ke laiy ab to hosh mai aain aur dost aur dushman ko pehchanain.

    ReplyDelete
  20. Khurasaan
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS4GpyuYTKA

    ReplyDelete
  21. @NN:
    i dont want to go into a long debate,but the last thing i would say that there are things in sahi bukhari and sahi muslim which shias can and do use to prove themselves right and there are things in their books asool al kafi etc which sunnis can and do use to prove themselves right.
    there is a margin of debate and flexibility on both sides.

    ReplyDelete
  22. @Hussain
    "dusra yeh k bagh hussain sahib ne apni kitab mein likha tha k unn ko hukam mila tha k iran pe khasusi twajjuh do"

    U are wrong in many points bagh hussain Kamal sahib
    ko Iran ke baray main nahi balkay Afghanistan ke bary
    mai khasusi twajjuh ka hukam mila tha

    ReplyDelete
  23. @anonymous:
    go and check again.check the post "Pakistan,a great scheme of God" on this blog and check the scan page 201 of that post (which has been mentioned as 202,203 by author as a mistake) it is written that author was ordered to pay special attention to both afghanistan and Iran.and that order was given in 1984 when shia revolution in Iran had almost completed.

    ReplyDelete
  24. @Hussain

    Allah, the Exalted, says:

    "And those who annoy believing men and women undeservedly, bear on themselves the crime of slander and plain sin.'' (33:58)

    1559. Ibn Mas`ud (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "Reviling a Muslim is Fusuq (disobedience of Allah) and killing him is (tantamount to) disbelief.''
    [Al-Bukhari and Muslim].

    Allah Dr. Israr ko Jannat-ul-Fardous main Jaga dey Ameen...

    ReplyDelete
  25. Insha'Allah, Imam Mahdi will correct Sia, Sunni, Wahabi, Alvi,... and they all will help Him in Ghazwa-e-Hind.

    ReplyDelete
  26. Bhai Aap Shia Hazraat ko defend kar rahe hain aur keh rahe hain k Sunni ulema k iman mai kuch faults ho sakte hain like the issue of imamat.
    Aap ki sayyidina Umar (RA) k baare mai kiya view hai? Unke baare mai aap kiya kehte hain?
    Aap ko to pata hoga k shia hazraat kiya kehte hain unke baare mai.Nahi pata to mai aapko bata sakta hun. mai kisi ki suni sunayi baat nahi karna chahta.

    Aapne Maulana Shaykh Nazim(Q) ko quote kiya aapko pata hai Mwalana Shaykh Nazim Ghaus-ul-Azam ki Aulaadon mai se hain.?

    Aur kiya aapko pata hai Ghaus-ul-Azam (Q) ne apni book "Ghunya-tul-Talibeen" mai Shia k baare mai kiya likha Hai..?

    Mai ye baat sun ker nahi khud ye book parh k kehta hun puri responsibility k saath
    Unho ne Shia belief k baare mai likha hai k muslamaano ko unke sath khana bhi nahi khana chahye unke sath shadi nahi karni chahye unke janazey mai nahi shamil hona chaye aur ye bhi k Allah inhe Ghaarat kare.

    Jab Ghaus ul Azam ne jise Bad dua di hai to aap hain kon unko defend karne waale. Pehle Mawlana Shaykh nazim k view bhi ja kar parh lein.

    ReplyDelete
  27. This comment has been removed by the author.

    ReplyDelete
  28. Look at this Hadith. He will unite Arabs and Iran...
    "Surely, a man from my children will come near the Hour(at a time) when the hearts of believers died just as their bodies died through harm, hunger, murder, continuous trials, great battles, the death of the Sunnah, the revival of innovations, abstention from honoring good and forbidding the prohibited that pursued them. Then, through Al Mahdi, Muhammad the son of Abdullah, Allah will revive the Sunnah that died and he will please with his justice, and the hearts of the believers will be blessed. Groups of PERSIAN and ARAB tribes will UNITE because of him, and so he will remain for some years, which are but a few, then die."

    ReplyDelete
  29. My reply above was for Hussain faisal bhai i have no problem with any of your replies.

    ReplyDelete
  30. Sorry I delete my first comment :)

    ReplyDelete
  31. @All

    Important Hadiths about Khurasaan....

    Nu'aym ibn Hammad narrated from Muhammad ibn al-Hanafiyyah that he said:

    "A black banner will come, belonging to Banul-'Abbas. Then, from Khurasan will come another one, also black. Their turbans will be black and their garments white. At the head of their army will be a man called Shu'ayb ibn Salih ibn Shu'ayb, from Tamim. They will defeat the companions of the Sufyani until he [i.e. Shu'ayb ibn Salih] settles in Bayt al-Maqdis, preparing the way for the Mahdi's rule. Three hundred men from Sham will help him. Between his coming and the handing over of the rule to the Mahdi will be seventy months."

    And he also narrated from Sa'id ibn al-Musayyib that he said: "The Messenger of Allah [sallallahu 'alayhi wa-sallam] said:

    "Out of the east will come black banners belonging to Banul-'Abbas, then they will remain as long as Allah wills, then small black banners will come out against a man from the descendents of Abu Sufyan and his companions, from the east. They will give their obedience to the Mahdi."

    And he also narrated from al-Hasan that he said:

    "A man will come out of ar-Rayy, sturdy and light-brown in complexion, a mawla [non-Arab ally] of Banu Tamim, a man with a thin beard growing only on his chin, called Shu'ayb ibn Salih, among four thousand with white clothes and black banners. At the head of his army will be the Mahdi. All who meet him in battle will be struck down by him."

    Ar-Rayy is a city in Persia located near present-day Tehran.

    And he also narrated from 'Ali [radhiyallahu 'anhu] that he said:

    "When the cavalry of the Sufyani comes to al-Kufah, he will send them in pursuit of the people of Khurasan. The people of Khurasan will come out, looking for the Mahdi. Then, he and the Hashimi will meet with a group of people with black banners, at their head Shu'ayb ibn Salih. Then he and the followers of the Sufyani will meet in battle at the gate of Istakhar, and a fierce battle will be fought between them. The black banners will be victorious, and the cavalry of the Sufyani will flee. When that happens, the people will wish for the Mahdi (to appear) and await him."

    Istakhar is an ancient ruined city in Persia.

    So it is my guess Sufyaani will attack to people of Khurasaan (Iran/Afg/Pak) from west of Khurasaan i.e Syria but at Estakhr he will be defeated by Shueb bin Saleh of ar-Rayy using help of Pakistan and Afghan. (Allah Knows Best)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estakhr

    ReplyDelete
  32. @ Hussain

    You said shian e Ali alyhi salam ko bura nahi kehna chahye kiyunkay usmai sahaba karaam bhi hain
    Ahle Sunnat mai se koi kisi sahaba ko bura nahi kehta
    ye aapse kisne kaha?

    aur aap kehte hain dr israr ahmed ko k unho ne gustakhi ki hai.. unho ne koi gustakhi nahi ki.
    Aap judge hain kiya ya koi mufti jo aap faisala karne lage k kon sahi hai aur kon gustakh hai?

    Aap ka ilm to ulma-e-karaam se bhi ziyada hai shayad.

    Aap shaykh nazim (Q) ko quote karte hain to phir to aap Shaykh Gibril Haddad ko bhi zarur jante honge..?? unke articles bhi read kiye honge? is waqt wo kuch famous scholars mai se ek hain.

    Aapko pata hai unho ne kiya likha hai is topic pe..Jise aap shian-eAli ka naam dete hain yani un logo ko jinho ne Hazrat Ali ki shan mai gustakhi ki unke mutaliq aisi baatain ki jo unke liye nahi thi balkay Allah k liye thi ya rasool (SAW) k liye thi. Unho ne Sayyidina Ali (RA) ka rutba Rasool (SAW) se bhi ziyada kar liya aap unhe kuch nahi kehte lekin Dr Israr aapko gutakh lagtay hain. phir aap Ghaus ul Azam (Q) ko kiya kahenge? unho ne to apni kitab mai Shia hazraat ko boht bura kaha hai aur ye bhi k Allah in sab ko Ghaarat Kare. Is bare mai aapki kiya Raaye hai..?

    ReplyDelete
  33. @ Hussain

    Jo log Sayyidna Umar, Sayyidina Abu Bakr aur Sayyida Ayesha (R.A) ko gaaliyan dete hain unke liye aisi baaten karte hain jo bayan nahi ki ja sakti wo to aapko gustakh nahi lagte unke baare mai to aapne koi fatwa nahi diya ?

    Aap phir Shaykh Hisham(q) Ko bhi jante honge... Zara unke view bhi pata karen jaen aur search karen unki website per.

    AAp dekhen shia Hazraat ka kiya belief hai sahaba k baare mai:

    Mullah Baqir writes: 'One should say after each prayer: O Allaah! Curse Abu Bakr (ra), Omar, Uthmaan, Mu'awiyah, Aa'ishah, Hafsah, Hind and Ummul Hakam. (Aynul Hayat: 599)

    (Na'udhu Billah)(Astaghfirullah)

    Abu Bakr (ra) and Umar were more tyrant than Shaitan. (Haq-ul-Yaqeen, Page No. 509)

    (Na'udhu Billah)(Astaghfirullah)

    Sahabah (R.H) became infidel by denying the divine right (Wilayat) of Hazrat Ali (ra). First three caliphs and other Sahabahs became infidel by denying the divine right of (Wilayat) of Hazrat Ali (ra). (Asool Kaafi, Page No. 420)

    Kiya ye log sahaba se ziyada emaan wale hain inki himmat kese hui kisi sahaba ko bura kehne ki?

    Sirf hazrat Ali ko acha kehna aur baqi sab sahaba ko bura kehna agar aapki nazar mai emaan hai to aap ghor karen

    ye to kufr hai..koi ek sahabi ko to sab kuch maan le aur baqi sahaba ko gaali de..ye kesa Islam Hai?

    AND NOW SEE ABOUT THEIR BELIEF ABOUT MAHDI ALAYHI SALAM:

    -when he comes back he will give life to Umar and Abu Bakr (ra)
    - they say he will put life back into Aisha (r.a) and punish her for her 'affair'

    Imam Mehdi will punish Ayesha with strips. (Hayat-ul-Quloob, Vol. No. 2, Page No. 901)

    The Shia believe that at the time of Mahdi’s return Imam Mahdi will resurrect Aisha (Prophet Mohammad’s wife) and execute the law of Hudud on her, for committing Zina (adultery) during her marriage. (Al-Anwar Al-Numaniyah, vol. 1, p. 161, Tafsir al-Shafi, vol. 2, p. 108, Haq al-Yaqeen, vol. 2, p. 256, Hayat al-Qulub, vol. 2, p. 611)

    (Na'udhu Billah) (Astaghfirullah)

    Aisha was an infidel woman. (Hayat-ul-Quloob, Vol. No. 2, Page No. 726)

    (Na'udhu Billah) (Astaghfirullah)

    Wherever the Quran mentions "Rab" (meaning Lord/God), according to this Shia book, that word should be substituted with Imam Ali (ra)'s name. (Jila-ul-A'yoon, Vol. 2, p. 66)

    It is a fundamental principle of faith that our (Shia) Imams have ranks higher than the ranks of angels & God's prophets. (Khomeini's book, Hukuma Islamiya, p. 52)


    -they believe all Sahabahs became kuffaar except for 4
    -Miqdad ibn Aswad
    -Ammar ibn Yasir
    -Salman al Farisi,
    -Abu dharr al Ghifari
    (thats what you are Calling Shian e Ali)
    They are not shian e Ali, they are Ashaab-un-Nabi (SAW)

    Prophet Mohammad's wives, Aisha and Hafsa, are accused of poisoning Prophet Mohammad. (Jila-ul-Ayoun, p. 118)

    (Na'udhu Billah) (Astaghfirullah)

    Here what Huzoor (SAW) say about Sahaba (RA)

    "Do not curse my Companions. If any of you were to spend the weight of Uhud in gold, it still would not reach the measure (mudd) of one of them nor even one-half of it." (Bukhari, Tirmidhi, Abu Dawud and Ibn Majah)


    Shia say:

    Imams are God (Jila-ul-Ayoun, Vol. No. 2, Page No. 85)

    he Imam possesses more attributes than a Prophet. (Usool Kaafi, Vol.1, p. 388)

    Imam Ali is God. (Jila-ul-A'yoon, Vol. 2, p. 66)

    (Na'udhu Billah) (Astaghfirullah)


    Think Again


    ITS MY HUMBLE REQUEST TO BROTHER HUSSAIN, PLEASE FIRST READ GHUNYA-TU-TALIBEEN WRITTEN BY GHAUS-UL-AZAM SHAYKH ABDUL QADIR JILANI (Q) BEFORE DEFENDING THE SHI'TE BELIEF

    sorry if I have hurt

    ReplyDelete
  34. Idhar kuch logon ko Dr. Israr k zikr pe bht mirch lag rahi hai.dr. israr ki woh gustakhana videos aaj bhi youtube pe parri hain ,ja k dekh lein.
    Jo dr. israr ka sach btaye woh toh bht kuch hai aur jo Hazrat Ali alaye hi salam k upar ilzam lagaye k jin k nafs ko RasulAllah Salla'l la ho alaye he wasallam ne apna nafs qarar dia,woh shakhs kuch nahi?wah g wah.
    Ahadith aur riwayaat se saabit hai k bughz e Ali alaye hi salam munafiq he rakhta hai toh unn ki shan mein jhuti rwayaat laa ker aur reference taurr marorr ker taqseer koi nasibi aur munafiq he ker sakta hai.
    aur jo hazrat ghunya tul talibeen k upar shor macha rahay hain,woh pehle yeh dekhein k ghunya tul talibeen hai Huzoor Ghous ul Azam QaddasAllahu sirrahul Aziz ki kitab hai b k nahi?uss pe research hui hai aur skht anti-shia log b mantay hain k uss k kuch hisay Huzoor Ghous e Azam QaddasAllahu Sirrahul Aziz k nahi hain,ya mushtabah hain.

    ReplyDelete
  35. @nabeel:
    mein ne yeh toh nahi kaha k unn ki kitaboun mein harr baat authentic hai.mein ne jo kaha tha woh dobara parh lein comments mein,phir baat kerna.
    kya sahi bukhari mein yeh nahi likha k jab muavia ne bayat ka elan kiya aur uth ker pucha k tum mein so kaun apne aap ko khilafat ka zada haqq dar samajhta hai?
    toh hazrat ibn e umar ne kaha k uss waqt mere dil mein aya k khilafat k asal haq dar toh woh log thay jinhoun ne tumhen aur tumharay baap ko musalman kiya.
    ja k history parho k muavia aur uss k successors k daur mein Ahl e bayt alayehim salam ajmaeen k khilaf minbaroun pe charh charh ker kuch log kesi ghalat batein kehte rahay.
    Imam Nisai ko kyun shaheed kia gya?
    Hazrat HAssan Basri ki riwayat ko kyun mursal kaha jata th?
    aur b bht kuch suna sakta hun.sahi bukhari mein he esi riwayat hain jin se Khulfa e Salasa rizwanUllahi anhum ki kuch ghaltiyan samnay ati hain,jin se sunni sarf e nazar nahi ker sakty.
    agar iss mamlay ko au discuss kerna hai toh mere i.d pe mail ker k ker lena.mein idhar jawwab nahi dun ga.

    ReplyDelete
  36. @Faisal:
    sarmann rai is that city where shias believe that Imam Mahdi alaye he salam veiled (his ghaybat happened there)

    ReplyDelete
  37. @ Hussain

    bette to close this chapter here , since you are commenting on things which are not part of history , where Quran is saying something else for them , so where you authenticty will fall ?

    just Sahi Bukhari or any other book ??????????
    Even i say in broder sense that Khilafat of Ameer Mauvia is the Will of Allah and App Asalat to Aslam gave this BASHARAT and Hazrat Ali also gave this news and acknowledged this, and i beleive Allah's will and Amar Ilahi is always true and decided. NN

    ReplyDelete
  38. @"Idhar kuch logon ko Dr. Israr k zikr pe bht mirch lag rahi hai.dr"

    MIND YOUR LANGUAGE HUSSAIN....

    Jaisi Tumahri Zaban hain wasi hi Tumahra Dil Hai...

    You are not mureed of Sheikh Nazim but you are defaming his name by your hatred comments...

    I've listen his dozens of lectures. He liked Hazrat Ali (ra) more than you.

    Some hatred people like you used his 10 years old video to expelled him from QTV.

    Ager unno ney kuch kaha tha to 10 saal tak kio khamoosh they?????

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bgUVyipwq8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=ix9CI0C6nHU

    ReplyDelete
  39. About cursing Yazid

    http://eshaykh.com/doctrine/doctrine/about-yazid-2/

    it is not permissible to curse Yazīd specifically and by his name; and there
    is no proof in the Book or tradition to do so [curse by the name]

    http://marifah.net/articles/Yazid-Haytami.pdf

    Hussain you have cursed companion of Rasul (saw), Islamic Scholars and dozens of other Muslims. YOU ARE FALSE MUREED OF SHEIKH NAZIM.

    ReplyDelete
  40. @Faisal:
    Mention the line where i have cursed any companion!!!!mention it.
    Allah's curse is upon liars.
    And as far Dr.Israr is concerned he said it and in response to his speech full of nasabiyat, Dr. Tahir Ul Qadri deleverd a speech of a total of 11 hrs in two parts,with more than 80 references proving Dr.Israr's twisted references as false ones.

    ReplyDelete
  41. @NN:
    Where did Quran say anything about Muavia bin Abu Sufyan.He was'nt one of sabiqun al awwalieen.It is reported that he and his father abu sufyan accepted Islam on the conquest of Makkah.
    And as far as wrong allegation is upon me of cursing the companions,this is just the inner guilt of a nasibi.
    Muavia bin Abu Sufyan incited Hazrt Saad Bin Abi Waqas to curse Hazrat Ali.Upon which hazrat Saad got furious and explained merits of Syedna Ali alaye hi salam.(Tirmidhi)
    If this reference is wrong ,you an behead me.
    And as far cursing on Yazeed is concerned ,Imam Ahmad Bin Hanbal RehmatUllahi alaye hi cursed him,Imam Abu Hanifa neither supported nor did condemn but there is a silence over this issue according to him.So cursing Yazeed is legitimate.Only those hypocrytes who are followers of Zakir NAik NAsibi have love for Yazeed and call Karbala a political battle of two princes NAuzbillah,AstaghfirUllah.
    This video is available on youtube as well.

    ReplyDelete
  42. It is very sad that when Maududi revealed the truth in his famous book "Khilafat o Mulukiyat" those hypocryte people who had portrayed him as a hero,started giving fatwas on him.Those hypocrytes who had bughz e Ali alaye hi salam in their hearts.
    Why did Banu Umayya (after HAzrat Usman RaziAllah anhu) keep cursing Ali alaye hi salam and his descendants in sermons of jumma and Eid ,on the pulpit.They forced people to listen it,until HAzrt Umar bin abdul aziz stopped this culture.
    It is in authentic history books and no sunni or shia can deny it

    ReplyDelete
  43. Ahadith exposing banu umayya's acts (after Hazrat Usman RaziAllah anhu):
    1-jis ne Ali ko gaali di uss ne mujh ko gaali di,jis ne Mujh ko gaaali di us ne Allah ko gaali di
    2-Jis ne Ali se Bughz Rakha uss ne Mujh se bughz rakha
    3-Ali ki mohabbat momin he rakh sakta hai aur bughz munafiq he ker sakta hai
    4-Jis ne ehad pura na kiya uss ka koi deen nahi (HAzrat Imam HAssan alaye hi salam ne kya ehad liya tha?yehi na k aap subb o shutam nahi kerain ge,khilafat sunnat e nabwi ki tarz pe chalayen ge,aur apna koi janasheen muqarrar nahi kerain ge.inn mein se ek b puri nahi ki gayee)

    Aur suno !
    Jab jang mein shikast ki bari ayi toh Quran ko naezon per utha liya.
    jab woh hadees sunai gayi jis mein Hazrat Ammar RaziAllah anhu ko basharat di gayee thi k tum ek esay groah k hathon qatal kiye jao ge jo jahannum ki taraf bula raha ho ga (refrence of this hadees:Bukhari/Muslim),toh uss ki ghalat interpretation ki gayee.
    HAzrat Ali alaye hi salam pe ilzam lagaye gaye k HAzrat Usman RaziAllah anhu ko aap ne shaheed kerwaya hai Nauzbillah.Aur khud jab yazeed Mal'uun ne HAzrt Imam HAssan alaye hi salam ko zeher dae ker shaheed ker dia toh muavia ne kaha k HAssan alaye hi salam ki wafat koi itni bari baat nahi.
    Tarikh prho,sahah e sitta parho toh tumhein pata chalay k kon kya kerta raha.kis ne wafa ki Rasool Salla'l la ho alaye he wasallam k deen se aur kis ne nahi.

    ReplyDelete
  44. @NN:
    There is'nt such a hadees which mentions khlafat of Muavia.
    Rather RasulAllah Salla'l la ho alaye hi wasallam said :"After me khilafat will remain upto 30 years,then there will be monarchy .......contnd"and 30 years count upto exactly the era of 6 month long caliphate of Syedna HAssan alaye hi salam.
    This means that muavia was'nt included.
    Allah says in Quran"Allah's curse is upon liars"
    It is mentioned in history that Muavia called for HAzrat Abdullah Ibn e Umar and Hzrt Ibn e Abu Bakar and asked them to announce openly that they had given oath of sincerity to Yzeed.These two refused to do so and returned to MAdina.After they had gone,Muavia came on pulpit and announced that they have given oath whereas they had not.
    Now what is this?
    Muavia advised Yazeed MAl'uun that get hold over Hussain alaye hi salam and Hazrat ibn e Zubair strictly.
    Did'nt he know that how dear were Ali and Hussnain e KAreemain alaye him salam to PRophet Salla'l la ho alaye hi wa aalihi wasallam?

    ReplyDelete
  45. Conclusion :
    There are 41 orders of wilayat 40 authentically spring from Syedna Ali alaye hi salam.in the remaining one,there are different opinions.
    What do you think that why was he given such an honour?
    Because he was capable of it.If you notice one thing,Sufiya had extreme patience and tolerance so what wil be the level of patience of that honourable Master of Tasawwuf who was the dearest to Prophet Salla'l la ho alaye hi wasallam according to the traditions reaching to us?
    He was such a kind and affectionate person who did'nt use abusive language in response of muavia and marwan etc. and neither did he curse them in response of their cursing in sermons, from pulpits.
    Have you ever heard any wali fo our age mentioning the name of muavia in their gatherings?no,and neevr will you find until you force them or ask them.
    But you'll surely find the rememberance of Ali alaye hi salam and HAzrat Abu Bakar,Usman,Umar,Zubair etc.
    and in the most of the gatherings,remmeberance of Ali alaye hi salam will be far more than any other companion.
    Go and check it yourself.

    ReplyDelete
  46. Dr. ISrar ki gustakhi ka proof:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_sTTSCvg6w

    Dr. ISrar ko munhh tourr jawab:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdqNm8C7xcs&feature=related

    ReplyDelete
  47. @NN:
    there's a verse in Quran the meaning of which is "Say O Prophet (salla'l la ho alayae hi wa aalihi wasallam),i do not ask you of anything except the love of my ahl e bayt (alayaehim salam ajmaeen)"
    and did'nt He announce in LAst Pilgrimage "I am leaving amongst you two things.!-Quran 2-My ahl e bayt
    These two will arrive together at Hauz e Kausar to me"(Muslim,Bukhari)
    Did'nt he say that whosoever kept the bughz of my ahl e bayt,he kept my bughz and whosoever kept their love he kept my love"
    Then those people who cursed noble personalities of ahl e bayt alayehim salam,what would you call them?


    and as far the blame is on me that i'm not a murid of Maulana Sheikh Nazim QaddasAllahu Sirrahul Aziz,i dont care what people say as ther words dont affect the reality.These are the same people who claimed that Zaid Hamid ,the right hand of a KAzzab,is the representative (khalifa)of Maulana.And later denied it by saying that somebody told me so.

    ReplyDelete
  48. Muavia (ra) is companion of Prophet (saw). stop cursing him...

    I can show you dozens of video where Dr Israr show his love and deep respect for Hazrat Ali (ra). In this 12 years old video he only mention indecent written in Tafsir ibn-e-kathir.

    If Sheikh Nazim's true Mureed is saying Cursing to anyone is forbidden then it is forbidden and sin.

    Asalaam-o-Alaikum

    ReplyDelete
  49. Cursing is permissible in Sunni Islam if the one being cursed is alive and is clearly behaving as tyrants. However, Sunnis do not curse dead people because they feel as soon as a person dies-God administers judgement to them and it is impossible to change this. Sunni's generally don't curse dead people ---- wikipedia

    1552. Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said: "It does not befit a Siddiq (righteous Muslim) to frequently curse others.''
    [Muslim]

    1553. Abud-Darda' (May Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "Those who frequently resort to cursing (people) would neither be accepted as witnesses nor as intercessors on the Day of Resurrection.''
    [Muslim].

    1554. Samurah bin Jundub (May Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "Do not curse one another, invoking Curse of Allah or Wrath of Allah or the fire of Hell.''
    [Abu Dawud and At-Tirmidhi].

    1555. Ibn Mas`ud (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "A true believer is not involved in taunting, or frequently cursing (others) or in indecency or abusing.''
    [At-Tirmidhi].

    1556. Abud-Darda' (May Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "When a person curses somebody or something, the curse goes up to heaven and the gates of heaven get closed. Then it comes down to the earth and its gates get closed. Then it turns right and left, and if it does not find an entrance to go anywhere, it returns to the person or thing that was cursed; if he or it deserves to be cursed; otherwise it returns to the person who uttered it.''
    [Abu Dawud].

    ReplyDelete
  50. ulta chor kotwal ko dantay .
    mein ne muavia ko curse nahi kia,lakin jo ahadees aap bta rahay hain woh agar mauzu ya zaeef nahi hain toh inn ka ittelaq sahaba pe b hota hai aur phir jis ne Ali alaye hi salam ko gaaliyan di hon aur curse kia ho,inn ka ittelaq uss pe b ho ga khawa woh sahabi he kyun na ho.
    samajh ayi?
    aur jo curse kisi ne Ali alaye hi salam pe ki toh iss hadith ki roshni mein toh phir woh uss ko he laut jaye gi.
    aur tafsir ibn e kaseer mein kidhar likha hai yeh waqia?ibn e kaseer ki tafseer authentic hai ya woh 80+ ahadees jo tahir ul qadri ne byan keen jin mein se aksriyat sahah e sitta ki ahdees k thi?
    nasbiyoun ko chun chun ker zaeef aur mauzu riwayat lanay ki adat hai.

    ReplyDelete
  51. Are you blind??? All above Hadith are Sahi taken from Muslim, Abu Dawud and Tirmidhi. If you believe on these books then stop cursing deceased persons....

    There were differences in Sabaha which is natural. It is not cursing. Even angels have differences...

    Apney Eymaan ki fikr karo.

    ReplyDelete
  52. This comment has been removed by the author.

    ReplyDelete
  53. @ Hussain

    """"there's a verse in Quran the meaning of which is "Say O Prophet (salla'l la ho alayae hi wa aalihi wasallam),i do not ask you of anything except the love of my ahl e bayt (alayaehim salam ajmaeen)""""

    you are right , this is true aya but your understanding i make it more broader , Ahly e bayt according to Quran is all the family members and this specific word " Ahlay bait " also used in qurn with other Anbiya Alhya salam and moreover app aslat o aslam are RAHMAT ul LIL ALMEEEN all those will be considered in the family of ahlay bait bait who are follower of teaching our Nabi aslato aslam like belvoed Sahabay karam and Tabaeen and Taba Tabeeen.


    "and did'nt He announce in LAst Pilgrimage "I am leaving amongst you two things.!-Quran 2-My ahl e bayt '

    this is also true absoulty true , so where is this mention in this aya that who are part of ahalay bait ??



    "These two will arrive together at Hauz e Kausar to me"(Muslim,Bukhari)"

    all MUTABAEEEN will be with App aslato aslam at hauz e kauser inshallah .


    "Did'nt he say that whosoever kept the bughz of my ahl e bayt,he kept my bughz and whosoever kept their love he kept my love"""

    true , so again the same thing which ones will be included and which one will be excluded ????

    HOPE YOU COULD UNDERSTAND WHAT IS POINT HERE .
    NN

    ReplyDelete
  54. @ Hussain

    You said:
    "Ahadith aur riwayaat se saabit hai k bughz e Ali alaye hi salam munafiq he rakhta hai toh unn ki shan mein jhuti rwayaat laa ker aur reference taurr marorr ker taqseer koi nasibi aur munafiq he ker sakta hai."

    Aap k mutabiq Ali Radi Allahu Anhi se bughaz rakhne wala munafiq hai. aur phir ye bhi bata dein k Sayyidna Umar Radi Allahu Anhu ko Gaali dene wala kon hoga? Abu Bakr Radi Allahu Anhu ko Gaali dene wala kon hoga.? Aap Ayesha Siddiqa ko Gaali dene wale unper zina ka ilzam lagane wale ko kiya kahenge?

    Aap HAzrat Ali ko Rab kehne walo ko kiya kahenge?

    Aap ne hadith quote ki hum ne to za'eef nahi kaha aapki quote ki gayi ahadith ko

    Aap ne ek hadith quote ki k jis ne Ali ko gali di usne mjhe gaali di.

    aap ne ye hadith suni hogi k

    Huzoor ne farmaya: ager mere baad koi nabi hota to Umar (RA) hote.

    To phir hazrat Umar ko gaali dene wale k baare mai aapni raaye ka izhaar kar den please.

    aap humain za'eef hadith quote karne wala aur nasibi kehte hain.

    Apne baare mai kiya khayal hai? or in logo k baare mai jo hazrat ali ko ghalat k liye wo baat kehte hain jo Allah k liye khaas hain.

    Aap hazrat Ali k naam k aage to alayhi salam laagate hain lekin Hazrat mawiyah ka naam aese lete hain jese kisi bachay ka naam le raha ho.

    Waah haussain bhai...!!

    Aap ko har baat pe aitraz hai.Faqar bhai ne jitni post ki aapne sab pe keeray nikalay.

    faqar bhai ne kuch auliwa karam ki baaten sghare ki aapne har baat mai aitraaz kiya sab ghalat hain bas ek aap thik hain.

    Aap ko ghaus ul azam ki kitab mai bhi keeray mil gaye.

    aapko quran parhne mai bhi masla hota hoga haina. aap sochte honge ye verse quran mai thi ya baad mai kisi ne daal di ye khyala to aata hoga haina?

    sab ghalat hain bas aap thik hain.

    Sirf Hazrat Ali aur ehle bayt se muhabbat rakhna aur baqi sahaba jese Abu bakr (RA) aur Sayydina Umar ko gaali dena ye konsa emaan hai kiya aapki nazar mai aise log gustakh nahi? Sirf hazrat ali ki shan mai gustakhi karne waale munafiq hain? Hazrat Umar ki shan mai gustakhi karne waale nahi?


    Aur sab ko nasibi kehne waale bhai mai aapke liye Mawlana shaykh nazim Al haqqani (Q) k lecture mai se kuch quote kar raha hun aur link bhi de raha hun isse bhi zaeef na nasibi na keh dena . aur ager tumhe lgta hai k tum mawlana shaykh nazim se ziyada jaante ho dafa ho jao phir.

    Mai unke lecture se jo bhi quote kar raha hun wo mai apni taraf se nahi likh raha mai link de raha hun unke lecture ki ja kar dekh lo lecture.

    http://www.saltanat.org/Blog/tabid/271/PostID/458/-iiler-The-Shia-tr.aspx

    ReplyDelete
  55. Mawlana Shaykh Nazim On 21 November 2011 said About Shia:

    Alhamdulillah, Ahli Sunnat wal Jamaat. We are on the way of our Prophet (saws) and his companions. We haven’t changed it. They have changed everything. They did as they liked, as it came to their minds. Meaning, Islam in the hand of Shi’ites is changed so much that it is not Islam anymore. They don’t mention our Prophet’s (saws) name but they mention Sayidina Hussain’s (ra) name.

    They are so committed, loyal to Sayidina Hussain (ra), almost as if they idolize him, as their god. They cry and cry, they perform an endless mourning. But, they will not be given a chance. Astaizu Billah, “inna Allaha la yusilhu amala al-mufsidina” (10:81). “Verily Allah does not set right the work of Al-Mufsidun (the evil-doers).” He sets right the work of those who are on the right way..

    Therefore, Ottomans raised the flag of Islam for 1000 years and kept the Caliphate. It was not given to Iranians. Allah has found our glorious Ottoman ancestors, Amin (trustworthy) and left the Caliphate to them. He confirmed them and they (Iran) got nothing. May Allah send the Sahibul Waqt.

    The first ones that Sahibul Waqt will clean will be them. Then, they will say, “you are not Mahdi. You are not the Mahdi we are looking for.” “Am I not? I will inform you who I am!”

    he one in power in Islam is Ahli Sunnat, not Shi’as. Our Prophet (saws) said, “ana wa man it-taba’ani” (Hadith). Who is with Haqq? Me and those who follow me. Who did Sayidina Ali (ra) follow?

    Who did Sayidina Hassan and Hussein (ra) follow?

    finished then! This is not a toy. It is the religion of Allah, not easy. This is enough.


    Ab ye na keh dena k Mawlana Shaykh Nazim ki age 90 years hai wo jhoot bol rahe hain ya wo bhool gaye hain (Na'udhu Billah)

    ReplyDelete
  56. oriya g i love you. ur my favourite analyst

    ReplyDelete
  57. @nabeel:
    Hazrat Umar aur Abu Bakar RizwanUllahi anhum ko galiyan daenay walay ko rafzi kehte hain lakin woh log jin baaton ki bina per esa kertay hain,uss k kuch evidence sunni books mein ya history ki books mein maujud hain.Lakin phr b Hazrat Umar aur Abu Bakar ka gustakh fasiq kehlaye ga.WAllahu Aalam.

    Aur jo Hazrat Ali alaye hi salam ko rabb kahay Nauzbillah,woh toh eman se he kharij hai.

    @NN:
    Ahl e bayt alaye him salam se kaun murad hain,iss mein sunni ulema toh 3 types define kertay hain lakin haqiqat yeh hai k agar aap ayat e mubahila aur ayat e tatheer ki tafseer parhein ((kisi standard tafseer se) toh pata chalay ga k ahl e bayt mein Hazrat Ali ,Hussnain e KAreemain,Syeda Fatima Zehra SalamUllahi alayehim ajmaeen shamil hain.aur phir hadees e kisa b parhein k Nabi salla'l la ho alaye hi wasallam ne kin nafoos e muqaddasa ko apni chadar mubarik k neechay le ker dua ki thi?

    ReplyDelete
  58. @Faisal:
    mein ne zaeef aur mauzu riwayat unn ko kaha hai jo tafseer ibn e kaseer mein ibn e kaseer ne bht si sahi riwayat k sath likh di hain.esi hi kuch riwayat ka reference shia b ghaseet ker latay hain apne haq mein.
    Dr. Israr ne sahi riwayaat chhor ker tafseer ibn e kaseer ko kyun pakra?
    aur Maududi ki book "khilafat o malukiyat " k baray mein kya khyal hai?
    aur mein ne ks ko curse kia hai?Mein ne upar ek bhi comment mein apni janib se yeh kaha ho k fulan pe laanat ho,mujhe woh comment dikha do.
    khamkha ilzam na lgao.

    ReplyDelete
  59. @Nabeel:
    mein toh manta hun k unhoun ne beliefs mein bht change kia hai,lakin sunniyon ne b asal history nahi btai aur bht kuch chupaya.
    BAnu umaaya ki jaanib se namaz k auqat mein tabdeeli,minbaroun pe charh ker subb o shutam,aur ahl e bayt alayehim salam ajmeen k khilaf honay walay mazalim,phir banu abbas k mazalim,Quran ka naezoun per uthaya jana,hadees ki jan bujh ker ghalat taweelein dena yeh sab jan bujh ker nahi btaya gya .

    ReplyDelete
  60. @hussain

    Not only word curse is used in Hadith word 'abuse' or 'criticize' is also used in Ahdith. If you didn't send curse on Islamic Scholars then you abused them. Cursing, abusing or criticizing any dead person is forbidden in Sunni Islam.

    HADITH:
    Abusing a Muslim is sinful,and fighting(making war, qital) with him is(tantamount to) kufr.
    Bukhari,Muslim

    You indirectly curse Dr Israr Ahmed by saying he is Gustakh-e-Ali and by saying 'gustakhi karne waale munafiq hain'. So you declared him Munafiq.

    Topic of his video was not Hazrat Ali (ra). Topic was about tafsir of an ayat. He only quoted ibn-e-kathir which is most authentic and old tafsir. I can show you deep love of Ali (ra) in his many lectures.... Tell me why people didn't say anything during 10 years as this video was 10 years old??? They did this only to stop his famous program in TV which was most popular program in Pakistan and India.

    Brother unite Muslims and don't create differences between Muslims. All shia, sunni, alvi, wahabi are brothers and Muslims.

    JUST LIKE FUTURE IS GHAIB (UNSEEN) PAST (HISTORY) IS ALSO GHAIB (UNSEEN). Allah gives knowledge of both future and past from His Ghaib (loh-e-Qalam) to only His friends (Aylia). We cannot find ghaib of past from historical books.

    Please stop sectarianism...

    When an Ansar and Mohajir got into a fight due to a joke played by the Mohajir and each called upon his people to help:

    The Ansari said, "Help, O Ansar!"

    And the Mohajir said, "Help, O Mohajirs!"

    The Prophet [Sallallaho Alaihe wasallam] came out and said, "What is the matter and who gave this call of the period of Ignorance? "

    Then he [Sallallaho Alaihe wasallam] said, "What is the matter with them?"

    So he was told about the stroke of the Mohajir to the Ansari.

    The Prophet [Sallallaho Alaihe Wasallam] said, "leave this for it is an evil call''

    [Saheeh Bukhari: Volume 4, Book 56, Number 720]

    Mohajir and Ansar were names given by Allah, when these beautiful names became the cause of dispute amongst the Muslimeen, the Prophet [Sallallaho Alaihe wasallam] termed it as an evil call of the period of ignorance.

    Similarly is the case with names such as: Salafi, Ahle Hadith, Ahle Sunnah,Ahle Quran, Wahabi or Sunni etc, which seem beautiful in meaning but have become a source of dissension amongst the Muslimeen, so these names should be abandoned.

    How long will this creating of names go on?

    If the answer is no, then why did you need a new name before when we already had a beautiful name `Muslim'?

    ReplyDelete
  61. why did'nt dr. Israr do tresearch about authenticity of that narration.
    Is tafseer ubn e kaseer more authentic than sahah e sitta?
    Dr tahir ul qadri gave references from sahah e sitta which proved dr. israr and his reference wrong.

    ReplyDelete
  62. Video of Dr. Israr Ahmed is recorded 12 years ago and it telecasted many times on TV. Why this agitation on those days???? thing about this.

    It is recorded in books with and without name of Hazrat Ali (RA). Intoxicants are prohibited in three stages in Quran 2:219, 4:43 and 5:93. Many Sahabas (RA) used intoxicants until final prohibition.

    The lecture was about verse of Quran. He only mention the indecent reported in old tafsirs and history books. He loved Hazrat Ali (ra) more than you and me.

    aur aap mujhay yeh batain k aap kay paas woh kon sa aala hay k jis say aap nay dr Israr ahmad k dil main jhaaank ker dekh liya hay k woh hazrat Ali(RA) say koi bughz rakhtay hain?....unhoon nay maazrat bhi ki hay aur bataya hay k unhon nay sirf naqal kiya hay

    ReplyDelete
  63. @Faisal:
    baat itni si hai k nasibiyo kabhi yeh b sochna k jo pak hasti 6 saal ki umar se hi Nabi salla'l la ho alaye he wasallam ki aelaniya tayeed kerna shuru ker dae aur unn ki sohbat b rakhay,unn k baray mein tum yeh sochtay ho k unhoun ne umm ul khabas k chakha?AstaghfirUllah,Nazubillah.aur jis riwayat ki tum baat ker rahay ho,Dr. Tahir Ul Qadri ne sabit kiya hai k yeh riwayat Hazrat Ali alaye hi salam nahi bal k kisi aur sahabi k baray mein thi.uss taraf kyun nahi aatay?Issi liye na k Ali alaye hi salam ki shaan mein taqseer kernay ka koi mauqa hath se nahi jaanay dena chahtay tum log.
    Ek riwayat ki dum pakar ker shor machatay rehtay ho.
    baqi riwayat b dekho,jo Dr. Israr aur uss k tolay ki nafee kerti hain.Aur wo rwayat tadaad mein b zada hain aur hain b zada authentic.lakn bus bughz e Ali alaye hi salam ki wajah se haqq ko chupa ker ek tafseer ka hawala le ker Ali alaye he salam ki shan e Azeem pe tanqeed
    ker ni shuru ker di tum ne.

    ReplyDelete
  64. @NAbeel:
    Mein kaun hota hun Huzoor Ghaus e Azam RaziAllah anhu ,QaddasAllahu sirrahul Aziz ki tasneef pe tanqid kernay wala?
    yeh toh aap uss shakhs ko kahein jis ne ghunya tul talibeen pe research ki hai aur kaha hai k iss ki kuch statements/parts mushtabah hain /ya Huzoor Ghaus ul Azam Sarkar RaziAllah anhu k nahi lagtay.
    mujhe kya suna rahay hain.
    mujhe iss baat se inkaar nahi k mazhab e shia ne Islam mein bht changes ki hain,lakin mujhe iss baat pe ta'ajub hai k khud the most authentic sunni books mein mushtabah riwayat kyun maujud hain aur phir tareekh ki kutab mein b jin se shia dalaalat kertay hain?
    Aur shioun ki ek type zaidi shia b hai jo sunni Islam k bht qareeb hai aur Sahaba ki takfeer aur unn pe subb o shutam nahi kerti .
    aaur yeh k muawiya bin abu sufyan ki haqeeqat se kisi ko inkaar nahi.Auliya karaam RehmatUllahi alaye him ajmaeen ne iss maamlay pe zada tar sakoot ikhtyar kia hai,yani iss mamlay ko chhera he nahi jab k fuqha ne Hazrat Ali alaye hi salam ko barhaqq likha hai aur baaaz ulema,aur tareekh daanoun ne muavia k ehd e hakumat aur uss daur mein Islam k sath honay walay mazalima ur Islam mein honay wali tabdeeliyon ka kacha chattha khol dia hai.

    ReplyDelete
  65. Watch out. Americans are strangulating economically the entire route leading upto central Asia by entangling the region in the Af-Pakistan controveries and in the euphoria of re-emergence of Muslims from central Asia. Their hedgemonic designs are clear in Baluchistan.

    ReplyDelete
  66. subhana rabika rab il izzati amma yasifun,wa salamun alal mursaleen,wal hamdo lillahi rab il aalameen,may allah hasten the arrival of imaam mehdi alaye salaam,thank you and jazakallah for this blog

    ReplyDelete
  67. AAP loag to lagta hai imaam mehdi alaye salaam kay aanay say pehlay aik doosray say hi larrtay rahain gay,meray bhai behas waghaira choro,aao sab mil kar ammal karain,allah say iltija karain,nabi e akram par durood parhain aur arz karain kay hamain bhi mehdi alaye salaam ki fauj ka hiss banaain aur istiqamat dain aur khatima bhi eeman par naseeb ho.aameen

    ReplyDelete
  68. The Ancient Khurasan's central Image is the Ancient Bulk,Panj,Sogadia,till Indus river current Pakistan.
    Khurasan means land of Khuros buzerg,or The legacies of Sultan skandar Zulqarnain (Cyrus the great).The leading rule of the khanadan e Akhamanshis(Achmenians)will be there.
    Now those tribes living ni AF-PAK and central Asia whose roots are not Jews rather Achemanian will lead the anti-Dajjal forces and jews will join the Dajjalis.
    A blue eyed thick beard,strong physic man will advance against dajjalis from Taluqan takharistan and to chitral,Yaseen and then Gilgit-Baltistan.
    The initail main battle field will be Gilgit-Baltistan.

    ReplyDelete
  69. The Ancient Khurasan's central Image is the Ancient Bulk,Panj,Sogadia,till Indus river current Pakistan.
    Khurasan means land of Khuros buzerg,or The legacies of Sultan skandar Zulqarnain (Cyrus the great).The leading rule of the khanadan e Akhamanshis(Achmenians)will be there.
    Now those tribes living ni AF-PAK and central Asia whose roots are not Jews rather Achemanian will lead the anti-Dajjal forces and jews will join the Dajjalis.
    A blue eyed thick beard,strong physic man will advance against dajjalis from Taluqan takharistan and to chitral,Yaseen and then Gilgit-Baltistan.
    The initail main battle field will be Gilgit-Baltistan.

    ReplyDelete